this is for what you think is the dangerous thing in el dorado? i think its the storm titan, from what i know we've seen the ice titan and the dragon titan but not the storm. if it wakes the titan war could restart and destroy the spiral! what do you think is there?

Blixet on Aug 6, 2014 wrote:

gold n' doom.

Doom n' gloom. And gold. Lots of gold.

You know, that's one thing that we haven't received a lot of hints about. I'm hoping it's something truly astonishing, especially given that we'll have waited over 75% (at least) of the initial arc just to learn more. However, if I've learned anything about Blind Mew and the Pirate101 creative team, it's that they never fail to impress.

My guess is that there'll be monsters. And probably some big boss (Cthulhu?), as well as a few Armada elite fights. I wouldn't be surprised if we learn something about our pirate's past, too... I would say that greed will also play a factor. Of all enemies, human nature is surely the greatest.

Avery describes El Dorado as "a legend of the skyways, a lost island of solid gold " ( ). I'm willing to believe anything presented in this game. ( Flying ships, talking animals, floating islands and multiple orphans doing the same things ) But, for some reason, I can't believe in a gigantic island-sized gold nugget.
So I suggest that the island is not an island at all, but a battleship. Gold clad, with the ability to create it's own stormgate to any skyway. Now I could see why the Armada would want to go there.
And the "great danger"? The island is intelligent, aware of what is happening in it's surroundings and hostile to living creatures wishing to exploit it.
This is just a crazy thought of mine, presented for your entertainment.

anecorbie on Aug 7, 2014 wrote:

Avery describes El Dorado as "a legend of the skyways, a lost island of solid gold " ( ). I'm willing to believe anything presented in this game. ( Flying ships, talking animals, floating islands and multiple orphans doing the same things ) But, for some reason, I can't believe in a gigantic island-sized gold nugget.
So I suggest that the island is not an island at all, but a battleship. Gold clad, with the ability to create it's own stormgate to any skyway. Now I could see why the Armada would want to go there.
And the "great danger"? The island is intelligent, aware of what is happening in it's surroundings and hostile to living creatures wishing to exploit it.
This is just a crazy thought of mine, presented for your entertainment.

But why would Marco Pollo have a map to El Dorito...I mean, El Dorado then? (Sorry, I'm hungry)

*gasp* WHAT IF:

1) Marco Pollo is still alive, and his tomb was fake?

2) Marco Pollo is for some odd reason, KANE?

Wait, wait, hold on. "the ability to create it's own stormgate to any skyway." Hmmm, interesting. This conversation has reminded me of an old Disney movie called Treasure Planet. There's a legend about a pirate who can raid a ship, and then disappear without a trace. The main character, Jim, joins on a crew looking for the Treasure Planet. They find it, and Jim comes to figure out that the pirate used a little transporter machine to disappear. Long story short, the treasure was protected by a self-destruct and they had to use the transporter to get out.

Now, an intelligent ship/island...I'm going to have to think about that. I can't relate it to anything I've seen/read besides the Labyrinth from the Percy Jackson book series. The more people that are in it, the more it will confuse you. You'll find more traps. Enemies will be more numerous. The maze itself will shift and change. But, if only a few people go in, then there is a better chance of making it out alive. You'll still run into obstacles, but there won't be as many.

Now here's my question: What happens when we finally complete Marco Pollo's Map, and find the Stormgate to El Dorado? Would the Stormgate be filled with danger? No Windlane, possibly? And El Dorado...assuming that it is an island, is it a pleasant place? Or is it filled with Undead and creatures far worse? There must be a Skyway around El Dorado. To me, I think it would be like Avernus. Perhaps El Dorado has a golden Skyway?

MistyDragon13 on Aug 7, 2014 wrote:

But why would Marco Pollo have a map to El Dorito...I mean, El Dorado then? (Sorry, I'm hungry)

*gasp* WHAT IF:

1) Marco Pollo is still alive, and his tomb was fake?

2) Marco Pollo is for some odd reason, KANE?

Wait, wait, hold on. "the ability to create it's own stormgate to any skyway." Hmmm, interesting. This conversation has reminded me of an old Disney movie called Treasure Planet. There's a legend about a pirate who can raid a ship, and then disappear without a trace. The main character, Jim, joins on a crew looking for the Treasure Planet. They find it, and Jim comes to figure out that the pirate used a little transporter machine to disappear. Long story short, the treasure was protected by a self-destruct and they had to use the transporter to get out.

Now, an intelligent ship/island...I'm going to have to think about that. I can't relate it to anything I've seen/read besides the Labyrinth from the Percy Jackson book series. The more people that are in it, the more it will confuse you. You'll find more traps. Enemies will be more numerous. The maze itself will shift and change. But, if only a few people go in, then there is a better chance of making it out alive. You'll still run into obstacles, but there won't be as many.

Now here's my question: What happens when we finally complete Marco Pollo's Map, and find the Stormgate to El Dorado? Would the Stormgate be filled with danger? No Windlane, possibly? And El Dorado...assuming that it is an island, is it a pleasant place? Or is it filled with Undead and creatures far worse? There must be a Skyway around El Dorado. To me, I think it would be like Avernus. Perhaps El Dorado has a golden Skyway?

The intelligent island idea isn't original: I based my speculation on Marvel Comic's X - Men. One of their first adventures was defeating Krakatoa, the Living Island, The second source for an intelligent island/planet is from one of my favorite sci-fi writers; Andre Norton and her story The Powers that Be. Also referencing the computer HAL from the movie 2001: a Space Odyssey.

warriorscreed on Aug 7, 2014 wrote:

A GOLDEN BATTLESHIP!?!? That would be EPIC. However, at the end of the storyline, you can't just hand away golden battleships as awards to everyone. That would be pretty intense but cool. But I do believe your theory is plausible. The island must be some sort of warship to float like that, given how that it is made out of EXTREMELY HEAVY solid gold, because if it wasn't a warship, it would SINK......BIG TIME. Maybe the Armada wants it because a warship of that size, armor, and caliber would be unstoppable!

Not to worry, the ship begins a self-destruct operation, giving us time to flee to our ships. Intelligent ship/island goes BOOM !! No ship to commandeer, and no ship for the Armada.

FireMorgan13 on Aug 7, 2014 wrote:

I don't know if you've played The Legend of Zelda The Wind Waker (HD), but in it there was a ghost ship that seemed to move almost randomly. Somebody made a chart of that to predict where it will be at what times. So a map of El Dorado's location should it be a battleship isn't all that farfetched. I do think a golden Skyway would be cool. Here's another idea: maybe your parents aren't actually dead and they made it to El Dorado accidently or intentionaly, depending on how your parents "died". Then the final boss is against your parents! I thought that would be cool anyway.

Fearless Dolan Grant lvl65

I can understand wanting our parents to be alive; it would be a nice plot twist. I can even see how it would work for most of the 'deaths' mentioned when we create our pirate, for example, being eaten by a skysquid - what if it wasn't a squid but a submarine that looked like one? 'Lost treasure hunting' or 'lost in a storm' are almost begging for parents returning from the dead. The only two deaths that don't work is 'blasted by the Armada', and the 'Mutiny' scenario.
But the major objections to this happening is #1 The Cave of Many Voices ( Valley of the Gold Monkey ) where the voice of our mother says"find our graves" and #2 in Aquila, when we do the quest 'The Temple Circuit' and Hades tells us "Two spirits shun the underworld ". So, I believe our parents are dead.

anecorbie on Aug 8, 2014 wrote:

I can understand wanting our parents to be alive; it would be a nice plot twist. I can even see how it would work for most of the 'deaths' mentioned when we create our pirate, for example, being eaten by a skysquid - what if it wasn't a squid but a submarine that looked like one? 'Lost treasure hunting' or 'lost in a storm' are almost begging for parents returning from the dead. The only two deaths that don't work is 'blasted by the Armada', and the 'Mutiny' scenario.
But the major objections to this happening is #1 The Cave of Many Voices ( Valley of the Gold Monkey ) where the voice of our mother says"find our graves" and #2 in Aquila, when we do the quest 'The Temple Circuit' and Hades tells us "Two spirits shun the underworld ". So, I believe our parents are dead.

Well, let's think this through: Our parents were good pirates right? Wouldn't they have more than one ship like us? What's stopping them from jumping off the boat, unbottling another ship, and then sailing off somewhere else? Blasted by the Armada? They could have sent a decoy ship into the Armada's line of sight while they escape. The Cave of Many Voices, there easily could have been some magic crystal that records voices. Why they wouldn't tell you they're alive? They know that the Armada are after them, so they can't tell anybody they're alive or their existence could be reviled. "Two Spirits shun the underworld"? There could easily be two religious Monquistadors that try and stay out of the underworld. So really, it's entirely possible your parents are still alive.

Fearless DolanGrant lvl 65

anecorbie on Aug 8, 2014 wrote:

I can understand wanting our parents to be alive; it would be a nice plot twist. I can even see how it would work for most of the 'deaths' mentioned when we create our pirate, for example, being eaten by a skysquid - what if it wasn't a squid but a submarine that looked like one? 'Lost treasure hunting' or 'lost in a storm' are almost begging for parents returning from the dead. The only two deaths that don't work is 'blasted by the Armada', and the 'Mutiny' scenario.
But the major objections to this happening is #1 The Cave of Many Voices ( Valley of the Gold Monkey ) where the voice of our mother says"find our graves" and #2 in Aquila, when we do the quest 'The Temple Circuit' and Hades tells us "Two spirits shun the underworld ". So, I believe our parents are dead.

Thank you, i was wondering if i was the only one that listened to the magic crystals in the Valley of the Gold Monkey, and Hades? sweet, not been able to find that side quest though, so anyways i do agree with ya, our folks are dead, i was thinking that how Gandry said "Maybe their not dead, they could be trapped in a dungeon somewhere" or the "Lost Treasure Hunting" one, they could be at El Dorado ... and dont forget that picture that showed all the people friends with Marco Pollo, including your mother, so that could be a clue how they became friends, just thinking aloud!

Just me: Dead-Eye Nicholas Ashburn, look for me if ye will

FireMorgan13 on Aug 9, 2014 wrote:

Well, let's think this through: Our parents were good pirates right? Wouldn't they have more than one ship like us? What's stopping them from jumping off the boat, unbottling another ship, and then sailing off somewhere else? Blasted by the Armada? They could have sent a decoy ship into the Armada's line of sight while they escape. The Cave of Many Voices, there easily could have been some magic crystal that records voices. Why they wouldn't tell you they're alive? They know that the Armada are after them, so they can't tell anybody they're alive or their existence could be reviled. "Two Spirits shun the underworld"? There could easily be two religious Monquistadors that try and stay out of the underworld. So really, it's entirely possible your parents are still alive.

Fearless DolanGrant lvl 65

It would be a good plot twist, we agree there. The objection I have to the Mutiny and Blasted by the Armada scenarios is the problem of witnesses.
What's to stop them un-bottling a ship? Well being surrounded and out-gunned by the Armada for one and being captured and thrown over-board for the other. Another thought I have in opposition to this twist is this - what do we do with our parents after we are reunited with them?
A feel good - happy ending? Won't they want to stop us from being pirates? Being good parents, won't they try to order our lives? How long before we begin to resent their interference?

* post edit * while it is true that many spirits could be shunning the Underworld for various reasons; why in hades would Hades feel compelled to mention those to us? Our Presidio companion even mentions that 'those are your parents'. Dead Mike makes a comment like 'that makes three of us'.

Hmmm, still could be anything I guess

- Deadeye Jack Morgan

I think it is a whole world of gold and we fight Kane there, to be honest I've imagined how Pirate101 would end. You destroy Kane and get to see your parents and they say how proud they are of you.