ShadowStrikerV2 on Feb 22, 2015 wrote:

Yes, Leviathan's Call needs to be changed. Because at this point it's basically a weaker, more restricted version of Valor's Fortress.
While VF (Valor's Fortress) can be put on any friendly ally, LC (Leviathan's Call) is for your pirate only.
VF blocks 50% of all incoming damage. LC is restricted to only melee and musketeer companions (Musketeer pirates are able to cut straight through LC with things like Hurricane Round)

I feel this is unfair to all Buccaneers out there because they basically just get a ripoff of VF as their primary defense. Now do not say things like "Buccaneers can get gear with VF on them" because that is not the problem. The problem is that one of the Buccaneer's trademark powers is basically just a VF with special restrictions. It's not unique for it's power anymore, it's unique for it's restrictions. It's not fair for the Buccaneer's trademark defense to be a watered down VF.

Please, KI, make it unique for it's uses again, not for it's restrictions.

You can stack the other defenses with Levi's Call. Buccaneers have three of theses types of defenses. With VF and a Relentless it would make a Buccaneer OP.

ShadowStrikerV2 on Feb 22, 2015 wrote:

Yes, Leviathan's Call needs to be changed. Because at this point it's basically a weaker, more restricted version of Valor's Fortress.
While VF (Valor's Fortress) can be put on any friendly ally, LC (Leviathan's Call) is for your pirate only.
VF blocks 50% of all incoming damage. LC is restricted to only melee and musketeer companions (Musketeer pirates are able to cut straight through LC with things like Hurricane Round)

I feel this is unfair to all Buccaneers out there because they basically just get a ripoff of VF as their primary defense. Now do not say things like "Buccaneers can get gear with VF on them" because that is not the problem. The problem is that one of the Buccaneer's trademark powers is basically just a VF with special restrictions. It's not unique for it's power anymore, it's unique for it's restrictions. It's not fair for the Buccaneer's trademark defense to be a watered down VF.

Please, KI, make it unique for it's uses again, not for it's restrictions.

its fine the way it is, bucks shields are weak against magic for a reason, to add balance to the game, VF is stronger because the privateer only has 3 attackers instead of 4 so its more important to keep them alive with stronger shields

zuto4011a on Feb 24, 2015 wrote:

its fine the way it is, bucks shields are weak against magic for a reason, to add balance to the game, VF is stronger because the privateer only has 3 attackers instead of 4 so its more important to keep them alive with stronger shields

I get what you mean, but that's not my point. It's not unique for its uses anymore, only its restrictions.

If they simply gave it a minor change, anything that made it unique for its uses again, I'd be happy. But for now LC is still simply a watered down VF. Nothing special about it except for it's restrictions, and it's not fun.

ShadowStrikerV2 on Mar 4, 2015 wrote:

Like I said, don't talk to me about no auction gear with VF for bucks. My buccaneer has 4 VF cards. 4! (My main pirate is Swashbuckler FYI)
But you see, I don't like that my main defensive power is a ripoff of VF. I'm serious, if they just made it more unique I'd be happy. Be something different from VF but not in the sense that it's just less powerful. LC is a good power. Don't get me wrong, but I don't like it being a watered down VF. I know I keep repeating myself but that's the point! It's not unique! It's a ripoff! And, compared to VF, it simply stinks...

I'm not talking about no auction gear, you seemed to be asking for a VF version of LC for bucks; I maintain that this would unbalance the class. Stack your defenses and you'll be just fine. Buck also have a higher armor and health, so what if we give some more health to swashers and higher armor to witches. Don't you see that once you begin adjusting for what seems fair, the balance of the game and uniqueness of classes will be utterly lost? Classes have built in advantages/disadvantages for a reason!

zuto4011a on Mar 4, 2015 wrote:

LC is fine the way it is, there is no need for it to be changed, if that's changed then I demand a zeal buff back to 10 rounds since zeal isn't fun anymore

Zeal gives near double dodge and accuracy. With it active you have virtually no chance of missing or getting hit. (save musketeers)

And you're completely missing the point. I want it to be unique for its usage. Like I said in my last reply, I am not looking for a VF version of LC. It defeats the entire purpose of changing it!

I just want there to be a reason to use it instead of VF, just like there should be a reason to use VF instead of LC. But at this moment, it's a no-brainer which is better. VF is by far the better of the two, and it's only because LC is a watered down version of it.

If they just gave it a small buff, maybe a small extension to the time limit? or a 5%-7% boost to stats? I'm not saying those are specific things it should have, they're just ideas. Just realize why I'm saying this. It's not to make LC just like VF. It's to make LC unique for its uses. One should be better in one area while the other is better in a different area, to provide balance. But as of now, they're far from balanced, VF is completely and utterly superior to LC.

DuranteRamses87 on Mar 6, 2015 wrote:

Zuto I'm quoting you because I agree with you but my response is to Shadow Striker. My buffs were lessened because of people wining in pvp. Personally yes I would like my full power of zeal back that would be nice. Don't cry enough about the VF power for it to be changed too. Come on! I've seen very powerful buccaneers who do well enough without having to use a VF at all. VF is unique to the privateer class because it is our job to protect the party. Let me ask you this... how many unique attack powers are you given? Privateers are given those dropping bomb attacks that's it. Our job is almost completely defensive in that respect our power to do so should be better.

Virtuous Dante Ramsey

Ok first of all, I never said VF should be changed. I said LC should. And secondly, you're missing the point!
LC is, and I'm repeating myself, yet again, not unique for its uses. LC is only unique because of its restrictions.
And that is something that just doesn't sit right with me. I've said it before and I'll say it again, there should a reason to choose each one over the other.

For example, there's a reason to choose mojo blade over backstab, and there's a reason to choose backstab over mojo blade. Including the bleeding aspect, backstab does over all more damage than mojo blade, especially against those with low agility, however, mojo blade can can do more damage than backstab when the target has any of the buccaneer blocking damage powers activated, because mojo blade is unaffected by them, as well, it does more damage on those with less will.

You see? There is a reason to choose mojo blade over backstab in certain circumstances, while there is a reason to chose backstab over mojo blade in others. I challenge you to name one instance where it is better to use a LC than VF.

Look, I am not out to make LC just like VF. That would defeat the purpose of changing it. I want LC to still be uniquely different than VF, but not just because it's less powerful. I think there should be a balance between them in the sense that there would be instances where LC would be better to use than VF, like there are instances where VF is better to use than LC. Like I said, there is no instance where using a LC is better than using a VF.

ShadowStrikerV2 on Mar 6, 2015 wrote:

Ok first of all, I never said VF should be changed. I said LC should. And secondly, you're missing the point!
LC is, and I'm repeating myself, yet again, not unique for its uses. LC is only unique because of its restrictions.
And that is something that just doesn't sit right with me. I've said it before and I'll say it again, there should a reason to choose each one over the other.

For example, there's a reason to choose mojo blade over backstab, and there's a reason to choose backstab over mojo blade. Including the bleeding aspect, backstab does over all more damage than mojo blade, especially against those with low agility, however, mojo blade can can do more damage than backstab when the target has any of the buccaneer blocking damage powers activated, because mojo blade is unaffected by them, as well, it does more damage on those with less will.

You see? There is a reason to choose mojo blade over backstab in certain circumstances, while there is a reason to chose backstab over mojo blade in others. I challenge you to name one instance where it is better to use a LC than VF.

Look, I am not out to make LC just like VF. That would defeat the purpose of changing it. I want LC to still be uniquely different than VF, but not just because it's less powerful. I think there should be a balance between them in the sense that there would be instances where LC would be better to use than VF, like there are instances where VF is better to use than LC. Like I said, there is no instance where using a LC is better than using a VF.

Well since i'm jumping in all i can say is, LC doesn't need to be changed it is given to bucaneers so it doesn't need to block all sources of damage. Unique for it's restrictions i have a friend who hates VL and loves LC because it special. It doesn't need to be changed it's fine the way it is. You don't need to make everything special